AROnline » All Posts http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/feed/ Thu, 23 May 2013 12:49:10 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.3.2 en-US http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61298 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61298 Thu, 23 May 2013 10:43:47 +0000 francis brett The Defender is still important,take it away and the farmer that cant have a Defender wont buy the Disco as a second car,the utility companies swear by them.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61293 <![CDATA[Reply To: Yuk!]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61293 Wed, 22 May 2013 19:00:26 +0000 Colm Honda do a pretty cool looking small saloon called the city, like a mini accord.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61287 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61287 Wed, 22 May 2013 16:27:54 +0000 maestrowoff The problem with the Defender is that LR don’t sell enough of them to justify the cost of a direct back to basics replacement. The 3rd world market was lost to Toyota years ago, the Army is moving towards tougher, bomb proof vehicles. Jeep is in a similar position, financially it makes much more sense to produce more upmarket vehicles that can exploit the brand ‘heritage’ that BMW/Audi SUVs can never have.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61279 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61279 Wed, 22 May 2013 11:59:11 +0000 Chris Baglin @Keith B,

That Disco front end is well fitted. Not sure I like anything else about it- a rock hard ride and 37′ tyres are likely to mean it would probably handle like a pogo stick.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61275 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61275 Wed, 22 May 2013 08:40:54 +0000 Will M Just… just wrong on so many levels.

The Disco is, surprisingly, still available in subtle van form….

http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/lr/discovery-4/explore/commercial/

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61274 <![CDATA[Reply To: Yuk!]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61274 Wed, 22 May 2013 08:38:50 +0000 Will M I don’t mind it.

To me, that looks a helluva lot better than something like a Nissan Qashcow.

I quite like small saloons….

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61265 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/page/2/#post-61265 Wed, 22 May 2013 07:50:19 +0000 keithb Mitsubishi & TATA announce joint venture!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-MITSUBISHI-L200-monster-truck-discovery-3-front-37-tyers-crew-cab-/300900608478

Seriously though, would a Disco Crew-cab be viable?

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61254 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61254 Wed, 22 May 2013 00:27:49 +0000 Chris Baglin @Rickerby,

I think Defender dealers are likely to see their farmer customers quite regularly- just not to sell new replacement vehicles to…

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61253 <![CDATA[Reply To: Yuk!]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61253 Tue, 21 May 2013 23:08:00 +0000 Sam Frank That is foul!

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61252 <![CDATA[Reply To: Yuk!]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61252 Tue, 21 May 2013 21:35:56 +0000 Ianto Suddenly, the Lifan 520 doesn’t look so bad.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61251 <![CDATA[Yuk!]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/yuk/#post-61251 Tue, 21 May 2013 21:34:06 +0000 Ianto Check this out:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/113052157895/2014-mitsubishi-attrage-revealed

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61250 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61250 Tue, 21 May 2013 21:11:14 +0000 David 3500 @ Warren B:

I see even Volkswagen has a modern utility vehicle to take on the might of the Mitsubishi L200 and the obscenely ugly Nissan Nivara. A shame there continues to be nothing from Land Rover beyond the Defender 110 which will be a serious sales threat to them.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61249 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61249 Tue, 21 May 2013 19:47:25 +0000 francis brett Slow sales will dictate this and nothing else,if you can get an Evoque on the never-never why would you give the overpriced Freelander a look in?

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61248 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61248 Tue, 21 May 2013 19:23:13 +0000 Rickerby No doubt hardnosed economics are behind this. Far more profitable to sell fully loaded Range Rovers via 3 year lease agreements than bottom of the range Defenders to farmers that the dealer wont see again for 20 years.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61247 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61247 Tue, 21 May 2013 18:30:44 +0000 David 3500 One of the new vehicles being discussed I saw wearing camoflague materials on the A46 last Saturday. It was the same size as a current generation Discovery and similar in height as the current Freelander. Sadly it was travelling on the opposite carriageway so I was not able to see any more details in terms of basic shape or wheelbase etc.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61235 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61235 Tue, 21 May 2013 13:15:33 +0000 Warren B If all this is correct then it’ll be a big big shame. I think the Disco is pretty much in Range Rover territory in terms of refinement and luxury, compared to what it originally was, a Defender with comfort.

Now that the new Range Rover Sport is available with seven seats, where does that leave the Disco?

And as for turning the Defender into a lifestype SUV, well, the less said about that the better. I just hope they don’t use the Defender name on a beefed up Skoda Yeti…

Then again, if it keeps people in the UK in jobs then we can’t really complain. I still think that Land Rover (and Jaguar) is something we can be proud of, but the thought of them cutting ties with their roots with rugged basic workhorses genuinely makes me feel quite sad.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61234 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61234 Tue, 21 May 2013 12:34:03 +0000 Will M OR:

Continue developing the back to basics off roader with Tata.

Use a brand aligned with LR/RR but not LR/RR. Simply ‘Rover’?

>:)

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61233 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61233 Tue, 21 May 2013 11:59:48 +0000 Chris Baglin I don’t care a lot about the Freelander replacement, but it is a damn shame that the Defender isn’t being replaced.

Maybe Toyota will step into the breach with their long-running Land Cruiser 70 series (the hard top was sold here for a few years as the Prado). These tough, no frills vehicles are probably the last of the ‘first world’ traditional off roader, along with the Mercedes G Wagen, which is too pimped-up and far too expensive for serious use as a rugged off roader by farmers and utilities.

]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61231 <![CDATA[Reply To: End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61231 Tue, 21 May 2013 09:07:21 +0000 Will M LR seem to be stuck between wanting to go premium and make every model a Range Rover lite, and their traditional British farming clientele.

  • This reply was modified 2 days, 2 hours ago by  Will M.
]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61230 <![CDATA[End of the Freelander]]> http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/forum/topic/end-of-the-freelander/#post-61230 Tue, 21 May 2013 09:04:46 +0000 Will M Autocar are reporting that the new Freelander is not to be a Freelander – the name is to be retired, and instead it’ll become a mini Discovery.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-land-rover-freelander-join-extended-discovery-family

So what was intended to be the LR Defender-Discovery link model is to join the model name of what was intended to be the LR Defender-Range Rover link model.

This comes on the back of news that the Defender is not to be replaced by a rugged model:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/plans-new-land-rover-defender-shaken

So, presumably they’re trying to to a MINI with the Defender, create a model that pays homage to the original, but doesn’t quite have the same USP, instead going after a lifestyle market.

I guess they’ve given up chasing Toyota Land Cruisers, HiLuxes, Mitsubishi L200s etc.

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