Comments on: News : Classics safer as ‘Scrap metal dealer’s bill’ is passed

By: berard winkleman

berard winkleman — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 05:41:49 +0000

Andrew another great article. You are a man of much knowledge! Are you a second hand car dealer? Well I live in salford and I scapped a few motors recently. One was my ex girlfriends. She left the old bmw 3 series on my lawn for 3 months! so I called the scrappy and he collected it. Gave me 100 quid! so i went out and brought a curry and some bensons. Cheers Andrew look forward to more intresting reads!!!

Rover 216 Sli in red.

By: The Wolseley Man

The Wolseley Man — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:54:04 +0000

Well done to Mr Ottoway who is at least trying to control this. Annoyingly, if this law had been in place in 2011 my half rebuilt Ashley would have been rejected by the local scrap yard when the travellers stole it.
The car had a lot of time and a little money spent on it. It was a unique Sportiva Softop based on a 54 Somerset chassis.
My daughter spotted it months after the theft whilst looking for some bits for her Viva (we are only going back a couple of years here – she just loves Vivas). When I went to the yard with all the paperwork and pictures of the car under restoration – we were aiming for a Jensen fibreglass like finish – the scrap man almost cried. I landed up consoling him!

By: Ian Robinson

Ian Robinson — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:12:58 +0000

It will be interesting to see if this legislation does make a difference. The major issue that has dominated the transport headlines in recent years has been cable theft from the railways and that has shown signs of diminishing with ever more vigilant checks on “dodgy” scrap dealers. The legislation on scrapping procedures for cars is, however, a step in the right direction. But classic car theft remains a significant problem.

By: Martin

Martin — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:18:52 +0000

The Mini Rorum now has a Stolen Mini Section there have been so many disappearing recently:
http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/forum/196-stolen-mini-alerts/

Mini Thefts Go Ballistic In The Midlands:
http://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/general-classic-car-news/mini-thefts-%E2%80%98go-ballistic%E2%80%99-in-the-midlands?utm_source=Silverpop&utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=CLS%20email%20newsletter%2030%20November%202012%20%281%29&utm_content=Topic_2_bottom_link_1

For Example:
J998 RBR Classic Mini Cooper S spi stolen from Chester-Le-Steet Dec 20th 2012.
The car was recovered from Wingate County Durham on the 22th.
The car had been stripped.
The car had a full restoration new inner and outer wings floors and subframe and a lot of time money and welding with a full respray which was completed on the 18th DEC.
Out of the Garage and on the road 19th DEC.
Any information you can provide me or the Durham Police would be greatly appreciated.
Don’t let them get away with it the next car may be your pride and joy
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/J998RBR-Rover-Mini-Cooper-S-spi-John-Cooper-Garage-Works-Stolen-/230919816701?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35c3e4c5fd&nma=true&si=ETMs2WF2e7fUooeR3MuACXFpwnk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:19:56 +0000

Won’t make a scrap of difference. You either cut it to bits and take the bits in with other stuff, or you use a dodgy middleman.
The dodgy middleman I know takes a 20% cut, doesn’t need names and pays cash.The yards are so scared they don’t even take legitimate building site stuff. My men have been forced to use the middleman.
just sends everything more underground.

By: Chris Baglin

Chris Baglin — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:11:40 +0000

@14, tony,

Sounds about right. I used to work with those with learning disabilities (and with ‘challenging behaviour’). One day a colleague of mine was walking with a service user in the back garden of a ‘challenging behaviour unit’ when he heard a bang. Someone had shot off an air rifle and it had missed his head by millimetres (hit the wall beside him). I don’t know what those rifles use for projectiles but it had made a small dent in the brick wall. Took the Police four hours to turn up…

Glad to hear that the politicians are now doing something about metal theft. Been a long time coming.

Striking pic of the Ford D Series. I remember that when they restyled it with the more modern plastic trim it seemed instantly ‘up to date’. And how cheap and crude that restyle looks now. There used to be an old C or D reg D Series doing the rounds around here (very slowly) up to a couple of years ago. Had a sort of Hiab contraption on the back and looked like it was doing scrap duties, but not cars.

By: tony

tony — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:09:17 +0000

I once caught someone about to steal my own car this way…5 mins later It would have been in Iron Mountain. . .
Police came 6 (yes six) days later after reporting.
T

By: Lee

Lee — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:59:43 +0000

@2 and @4 – you see 504 estates every day around here,been in a few too. They are still the bush taxi of reference here in Benin.

By: gareth hopkins

gareth hopkins — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:02:45 +0000

@Andy Jones. Car was once registered to a Helen Jones. Was that your wife? Car on last leg of a restoration and now a manual

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:02:26 +0000

Thought those old Peugeots went forever and where the car of choice in rural Africa. The one in the photograph is only the same age as the Ford flatbed thats carting off to the scrap yard.

By: Steven Ward

Steven Ward — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:48:16 +0000

This law will make virtually no difference. My local scrap yard has opened an on-site cheque cashing facility…..

By: Ford Prefect

Ford Prefect — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:53:04 +0000

I lost a ’72 Alfa 1750 GTV whihc had just had the shell fully rebuilt and was juet about ready for paint, and 2 near complete sets of running gear and inteiror for the above (I did have 2 cars, a ’72 and a ’74.. yes the shell was actually the ’74! but this was in ’98 had scumbag brown left things alone I’d not have botherd with that bit of subtefuge). The whole lot got stolen and was almost certainly weighed in

By: Yorkie

Yorkie — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:51:46 +0000

A few years back, I scrapped the Mrs’ Fiat Uno, and the scrap dealer gave me the keys back and the number plates, as well as the C.O.D. Was a shame that had to be scrapped, as it was rust free, but everything else was knacked on it.

On another note, unless they nationalize all scrap dealers, the pikeys will still find ways round the law, there will always be dodgy scrappies around

By: Will M

Will M — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:49:29 +0000

Overloaded? Much?
From the time when Peugeots were regarded as French Mercs, and Mercs were built like tanks too (Saw a W123 yesterday in great condition).

By: Tim Burgess

Tim Burgess — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:13:00 +0000

I guess this applies when weighing in scrap metal as well, at least, I hope it does. Friends of mine recently lost a garage full of Classic Vauxhall parts it had taken years to accumulate to these leeching morons.

By: Andy Jones

Andy Jones — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:42:33 +0000

@Gareth, I see you still have our old Rover SD1 ! Hope it is still running well!

Good news with the scrapyards!

By: Magnus

Magnus — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:42:23 +0000

@2.

Indeed it is, Will. The poor thing only managed 9 years which is peanuts, given that they were built like tanks.

My all-time favourite photo-proof of their strength is this:
http://www.motorstown.com/imgs/62153-peugeot-504-cab-5.html

By: Gareth Hopkins

Gareth Hopkins — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:11:17 +0000

loving that period shot. When was the last time you saw a Peugeot 504 estate? Loved those cars…

By: Will M

Will M — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:04:55 +0000

I didn’t realise classic car to scrap theft was such a huge issue.

More of a scandal was the government sanctioned scrapping of classics to get a couple of grand off a Chevrolet Aveo.

Is that a 504 meeting it’s end?

By: Neil Turner

Neil Turner — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:01:28 +0000

My local scrap dealer has done this for a few years now. I have to have valid photo ID, and the Car V5 before I can scrap a car, and i’m given a DLVA scrapage certificate and cash receipt with in and our weights etc, plus my tow car reg no.