Gallery : ‘Those doors’…

When the BMC 1800 was launched in 1964, few people can have imagined that one of its defining features – its doors – would later appear on a series of cars ranging from a 1.5-litre family hatchback to a 3-litre executive saloon.

However, the story doesn’t end there. As well as being pressed into service on no fewer than four distinct production models, ‘those doors’ were at the heart of a plethora of proposed models that never saw the light of day.


The production models

BMC 1800/2200

First outing was on the Austin 1800, where they appeared in their purest form. The 1800 would later appear in Morris and Wolseley forms, but while the badges and trim levels may have changed, nothing would shift those doors.
First outing was on the Austin 1800, where they appeared in their purest form. The 1800 would later appear in Morris and Wolseley variants but, while the badges and trim levels may have changed, nothing would shift those doors

Austin 3 Litre

Although it was launched some three years after the 1800, the mighty Austin 3-litre was always destined to share its smaller sibling's doors. The only concession to the 3-litre's flagship status, externally at least was the provision of opening quarterlights; however, the first 1000 cars or so made do without them.
Although it was launched some three years after the 1800, the mighty Austin 3 Litre was always destined to share its smaller sibling’s doors. The only concession to the 3 Litre’s flagship status, externally at least, was the provision of opening quarter lights. However, the first 1000 cars or so made do without them

Austin Maxi

Another two years passed before those doors made their next appearance, this time on the versatile Austin Maxi. Reverting to their original, non-quarterlight status for this application, the Maxi's longevity would ensure that those doors would remain in production for a total of 17 years.
Another two years passed before ‘those doors’ made their next appearance, this time on the versatile Austin Maxi. Reverting to their original, non-quarterlight format for this application, the Maxi’s longevity would ensure that ‘those doors’ would remain in production for a total of 17 years

Austin/Morris X6 range

For their final debut, those doors ventured to Australia, where they graced the 1800-based Austin X6 cars, the Tasman and Kimberley. The Australian Design Rules dictated that the original, push-button handles had to be swapped for recessed ones in the interests of pedestrian safety.
For their final debut, ‘those doors’ ventured to Australia, where they graced the 1800-based Austin X6 cars, the Tasman and Kimberley. The Australian Design Rules dictated that the original, push-button handles had to be swapped for recessed ones in the interests of pedestrian safety

The might-have-beens

BMC 1800 estate

BMC considered turning the 1800 into a sort of half-hearted estate car in 1966. Although the Maxi-like rear bodywork was new, those doors would have been all-too familiar...
BMC considered turning the 1800 into a sort of half-hearted estate car in 1966. Although the Maxi-like rear bodywork was new, ‘those doors’ would have been all-too familiar…

Maxi styling proposal

This alternative design proposal for the Maxi, dating from 1967, marks the first point at which BMC considered using those doors for its new 1500cc car.
This alternative design proposal for the Maxi, dating from 1967, marks the first point at which BMC considered using ‘those doors’ for its new 1500cc car

Maxi saloon

The Maxi was originally developed in both four- and five-door forms, but only the five-door model was launched. This styling mock-up shows what the four-door model would have looked like.
The Maxi was originally developed in both four- and five-door forms, but only the five-door model was launched. This styling mock-up shows what the four-door model would have looked like

Vanden Plas 1800

No fewer than three proposed Vanden Plas models featured those doors, based on the Austin 1800, Austin 3-Litre, and Austin Kimberley respectively. The Kimberley-based Vanden Plas 1800 is pictured above, while the other two proposals can be seen in the Vanden Plas prototypes gallery on this site.
No fewer than three proposed Vanden Plas models featured ‘those doors’, based on the Austin 1800, Austin 3 Litre and Austin Kimberley respectively. The Kimberley-based Vanden Plas 1800 is pictured above, while the other two proposals can be seen in the Vanden Plas prototypes gallery on this site

Rolls Royce prototypes

If history had taken a different turn, those doors could have graced some very upmarket cars indeed. Pictured above is the proposed Bentley Bengal, while below is its Rolls-Royce counterpart, the Rangoon. Neither of these models made it past the quarter-scale model stage before Rolls-Royce came to their senses. Read more in the Rolls Royce prototypes gallery.
If history had taken a different turn, ‘those doors’ could have graced some very upmarket cars indeed. Pictured above is the proposed Bentley Bengal, while below is its Rolls-Royce counterpart, the Rangoon. Neither of these models made it past the quarter-scale model stage before Rolls-Royce came to their senses. Read more in the Rolls Royce prototypes gallery


And finally…

Bob Jankell's Panther car company produced the £72,215 DeVille during the late 1970s and into the 1980s and those doors made a return appearance. It just goes to show that high cost and good taste are not mutually exclusive (picture supplied by Dale Turley)Bob Jankell's Panther car company produced the £72,215 DeVille during the late 1970s and into the 1980s and those doors made a return appearance. It just goes to show that high cost and good taste are not mutually exclusive (picture supplied by Dale Turley)
Bob Jankell’s Panther car company produced the £72,215 DeVille during the late 1970s and into the 1980s and ‘those doors’ made a return appearance. It just goes to show that high cost and good taste are not mutually exclusive (picture supplied by Dale Hodge)

This page was contributed by Declan Berridge

Declan Berridge

19 Comments

    • X6! I think the appropriate phrase would have been “had them dumped over here” rather than “get them over here.” BLMC cynically used Australian customers as unpaid, involuntary test engineers and went broke because of poor market research and warranty bills.

      The X6 was the worst car ever mass produced in Australia; All the complexity of FWD and a poorly conceived OHC arrangement. Can’t believe any are being driven these days; I haven’t seen one for years……

  1. That hideous Panther car would cost nearly £290,000 in today’s money! Those doors don’t even suit the profile of the roof! Wonder how many they actually sold? And did Panther ever produce a decent car- with the possible exception of the Dolomite-based Rio?

    The ‘Aussie Rules’ Landcrabs were rather handsome- shame they weren’t sold here. Even the VDP looked good- more so than the Wolseley version that did make production.

  2. For who is interessed in the rubber door profile of those doors Maybe I can help you out! I have a panther DeVille saloon from 1987 and the profile fits perfect.

  3. I notice that nobody ever mentions the Australian Morris 13oo on this site. This was the ultimate triumph of British engineering down under……

    The E series motor was so tall that they had to put a bulge in the bonnet to fit it in the 1100 shell; then they realised that the auto box was bigger than the manual, it wouldn’t fit under the E series! So they grabbed leftover Mini 1275cc A series motors to power all the auto versions.

    I am surprised they didn’t just mount the transmission/engine sub-assembly in the back, driving the rear wheels. The boot was useless anyway…..

  4. A Rolls Royce version of the 1800? BMC/BLMC management never really understood badge engineering, did it? The idea was to encourage the buyer to aspire to the more expensive marque. Chev buyers lusted after Buicks, the Buick owner dreamed of a Caddy……because the dearer car was better………..but BLMC thought the idea was to dress the dearer car down so that there was no coherent reason to buy anything. Although I was always impressed by the way a Wolseley badge glowed in the dark I never knew why I should buy one instead of a Morris, or an Austin, or a Riley or…….

  5. Shame they didn’t do a landcrab based VdP – that looks quite good. Am I right in thinking that if someone was to get hold of 3 litre doors they’d fit perfectly into a landcrab body (an 1800 with quarterlights) and vice versa for the maxi etc? Those recessed latch kimberley doors look interesting too.

  6. Unless the 3-litre was at one time originally intended to appear much earlier, why was it even necessary for it to feature the same doors as the Landcrab? The same goes with the Maxi given there was actually an alternative Maxi styling proposal without those doors in British Leyland: The Truth About the Cars, which leads one to ask if an alternate 3-litre proposal minis the 1800 doors was ever considered?

      • A case could have been made for the Landcrab to use the 1100/1300 doors had the company prevented the project from drifting away from drifting away into becoming a bigger heavier car, or failing that belatedly adopted the 1100/1300-based doors idea (or ADO22 variation) for the Maxi resulting in a smaller lighter car.

        A smaller Landcrab would have in turn allowed an opportunity for ADO61 (depending on how early it appears) to be more X6-sized (instead of approximately P5-sized) and be light enough to feature a more extensive choice of engines like the Vauxhall FD and Ford Zephyr / Zodiac Mark IV, especially if the hefty underdeveloped revised C-Series was not the limiting factor (with other alternatives considered).

  7. Geoff – two reasons to buy the Wolseley and not a Morris or an Austin. 1) you love history: Wolseley were one of the oldest car manufacturers in the UK – and they developed OHC engines very early on – even my humble little Wolseley nine from 1934 has one; they made aero engines and helped us win the war and (2) for those who decry history, they mostly gave you leather and walnut trim versus ‘orrible plastic and even more ‘orrible metal. And yes, the illuminated badge was great – the equivalent of always parking your BMW with the grill facing your neighbours Mondeo!

  8. As rich of the history of Wolseley is, it along with Riley seemed to be gradually wound down by BMC in stature from exclusive body styles to simply being badge engineered models.

    In a world of sharp 2 piece suits they must have seemed like heavy tweeds image wise.

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