SAIC Motor and MG : Setting a precedent for FGA’s ailing Alfa Romeo brand?

Clive Goldthorp

MG6: A vitally important car for the future of the marque in Europe, as well as China.

Alfa Romeo and MG – two of the Automotive Industry’s most historic and iconic, but often troubled, sporting marques – have much in common at the moment. The two brands have probably the most active and dedicated global Owners’ Clubs networks of any OEMs and, while MG enthusiasts have just been celebrating the marque’s 85th Anniversary this year, Alfisti will be celebrating Alfa Romeo’s 100th Anniversary in 2010.

Alfa Romeo and MG have both chosen to mark their respective anniversaries with the introduction of an important new model which will play a major role in determining whether or not each marque survives and thrives long enough to enjoy similar celebrations in the future. SAIC Motor launched the MG6 at last month’s Guangzhou Auto Show and Alfa Romeo has just confirmed that the new Alfa Romeo Giulietta (formerly referred to as the Milano) will be launched at the Geneva Motor Show next March.

However, while a spokesman for MG Motor UK Limited has said that the MG6 ‘marks the start of one of the most exciting periods in the 85 year history of the iconic MG brand’ and recently appointed Sales and Marketing Director, Guy Jones, described the launch as ‘a milestone day’ for the marque, the comments made by Fiat Group Automobiles S.p.A. (FGA) CEO, Sergio Marchionne, about the current performance of Alfa Romeo which coincided with the Giulietta’s official World Preview last week, give cause for rather less optimism about Alfa Romeo’s future.

Marchionne was talking to Automotive News Europe’s Luca Ciferri and his two subsequent articles ‘Money-losing Alfa could face product freeze’ and ‘Fiat mulls putting Chrysler name on Lancia’ made for a thought-provoking read. Automotive Analysts and Alfisti alike had been wondering why there had been little or no mention of Alfa Romeo during the marathon 8 hour presentation of Chrysler Group LLC’s Business Plan for 2010 – 2014 on the 4th November, 2009 but the reason for that omission has now become clear. Marchionne believes that Alfa Romeo has undergone too many reinventions and told Ciferri that: ‘We need to stop doing it. You cannot be a newborn Christian every four years. It’s the same religion, eventually you need to own a religion and carry it to conclusion.’

Alfa Romeo 159 to be replaced using a JV platform
Alfa Romeo 159: a replacement may, if approved, use Chrysler's forthcoming LY platform.

FGA’s CEO has therefore initiated a Stategic Review of Alfa Romeo and, according to the first of Luca Ciferri’s articles, the two options for the brand are:-

1) replacing the 159 with a D-segment range and the 166 with an E-segment range built in North America on Chrysler platforms but unique to and sold by Alfa Romeo on a global basis or

2) freezing investment in the brand after the launch of the 147-replacing Giulietta next March. The MiTo and Giulietta would be Alfa Romeo’s only up to date models but the 159, Brera and Spider would remain in production for a time.

The D-segment and E-segment models referred to in 1) above would presumably utilise the latest, heavily modified, version of Chrysler’s rear wheel drive LX platform which was originally based upon the Mercedes-Benz W210 platform and has now, apparently, been re-designated as the LY platform. The LY platform reportedly underpinned the Opel/Vauxhall Insignia-sized Chrysler 200C EV Concept revealed at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit last January and a longer version will underpin the new E-segment MY11 Chrysler 300C.

However, Sergio Marchionne went on record at the presentation of Chrysler Group LLC’s Business Plan last month as saying: ‘I won’t even tell you the amount of money that the [next-generation] 300 platform costs. You’d be shocked out of your pants, but it’s done and life will move on.’ Marchionne wants to build twenty one different Chrysler and FGA models on only seven basic vehicle platforms by 2014 whereas today the two companies have a total of eleven platforms. The average number of models per platform will increase from 1.9 to 3.0 and the number of vehicles sold per platform will rise from 125,000 to 305,000 so the savings on engineering and development costs should be significant but, even so, Alfa Romeo’s Design and Engineering Teams are likely to have much cost-cutting work to do in order to make a commercially viable business case for the option in 1) above.

Edd Ellison of the usually well-informed, UK-based, website has consistently reported that the replacements for the Alfa Romeo 159, Chrysler Sebring and Dodge Avenger were to be based on an extended wheelbase version of Fiat’s Compact (formerly C-Evo) platform dubbed the D-Evo platform (1) but that plan no longer appears to be under consideration and so, by obliging Alfa Romeo to use the more expensive Chrysler LY platform for the 159 and 166 replacements, Marchionne seems to be loading the dice against Alfa Romeo’s medium to long-term survival.

Another factor militating against the viablility of the option in 1) above may be the emerging European trend towards a consolidation of the D and E-segments as evinced by a comparison between the dimensions of the E-segment MY10 BMW 5-Series and the D-segment Opel/Vauxhall Insignia – the key dimensions of the two models are all pretty much an exact match for each other. Alfa Romeo may not, therefore, need to replace the 159 and 166 with two models but just one…

Sergio Marchionne’s announcement of the Strategic Review at Alfa Romeo has, of course, prompted much debate about the marque’s future on websites such as One Forum member noted that many of the points made by Gavin Green in his recent ‘Saab: 1947-2009?’ Blog on Car Online were equally applicable to Alfa Romeo and several others have suggested that FGA should consider a third option: dispose of the IPRs to the Alfa Romeo brand and product range to an OEM with the desire and resources to establish the marque on a truly global basis.

Intriguingly, Automotive News Europe’s Luca Ciferri has now come to that conclusion himself – in his latest online ‘Inside Europe’ column, Ciferri observes that ‘cancelling new products would kill Alfa in just a few years, so Marchionne would do better to sell the brand before it goes into an agonising decline’ and then suggests that ‘maybe a cash-rich, globally ambitious Chinese carmaker might like to have a brand like Alfa.’

AROnline therefore wonders whether that ‘Chinese solution’ to Marchionne’s Alfa Romeo problem was discussed on an informal basis during Luca Ciferri’s recent interview with FGA’s CEO and reckons that there must, at least, now be a chance that Alfa Romeo will be sold to one of the leading Chinese OEMs. Ciferri does not specify which of the major Chinese OEMs might be interested in acquiring the Alfa Romeo marque but we believe that Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. Ltd. (GAC) may well be at the head of the queue.

FGA’s parent company, Fiat S.p.A., and GAC have recently won approval from China’s National Development and Reform Commission for the JV which was signed in Rome on the 6th July, 2009 (2). Indeed, according to a report in the China Daily, construction work on the two companies’ new JV facility at Changsha, the capital of Hunan Province, began with a groundbreaking ceremony on the 26th November, 2009.

However, in addition to GAC’s JV with Fiat, the company has JVs with Honda and Toyota and also announced plans to build a full range of own-brand passenger cars back in 2007. The first such model will reportedly be based upon the discontinued Alfa Romeo 166 platform which FGA sold to GAC in September, 2008 (3) and should hit the Chinese market in 2010.

Pre-production prototypes of the new E-segment model have recently been spotted on test in China and bear a close resemblance to GAC’s striking VIP Lounge Concept car. Ash Sutcliffe of the China Car Times website reports that one of the two prototypes caught on camera had an ‘A’ badge on the back and reckons that GAC may be planning to launch the car under the company’s Acumen brand but we think that the Alfa Romeo marque would be a rather neat fit with the ‘sports-business’ niche which the new car will be targeting…

SAIC Motor may have acquired the MG brand as a consequence of the merger with FGA’s original Chinese JV partner, Nanjing Automobile Corporation, but soon realised that the company’s new own-brand products would be more likely to succeed in the global marketplace if they wore the badge of an established European marque like MG rather than that of a new and unknown brand such as Roewe. Acumen may be better suited to the American and European markets than Roewe but Alfa Romeo has so much more charisma and heritage. SAIC Motor and MG might just be setting a precedent for GAC to follow with Alfa Romeo…

AROnline’s readers may have also drawn another parallel between Alfa Romeo and MG or, more accurately, Rover Group Limited. Sergio Marchionne’s recent remarks reminded observers such as’s Steve Cropley of those made by BMW Group’s then CEO, Bernd Pitschesreider, during the launch of the Rover 75 at the British Motor Show in 1998. However, in Alfa Romeo’s case, FGA clearly intends to complete the Strategic Review and make a final decision about the marque’s future before the Official Launch of the new Giulietta at next March’s Geneva Motor Show so that car might yet have a chance to ‘rise above a bad launch.’

A final point: Alfa Romeo UK and MG Motor UK’s Dealer Networks are currently of a similar size – Alfa Romeo has 49 Dealers and MG has 40 Dealers. However, while rumours suggest that MG Motor UK has plans to expand the Dealer Network to 100 outlets in readiness for next year’s UK launch of the MG6, Sergio Marchionne’s comments can only generate serious concern about the continuing viability of the Alfa Romeo franchise within an already radically reduced Dealer Network. Interestingly, Christopher Nicoll, the Alfa Romeo UK Managing Director responsible for that restructuring of the Dealer Network, resigned some months ago – his successor, Fiat Group Automobiles UK Ltd’s Managing Director Andrew Humberstone, may well now have a real problem filling any remaining open points.

Alfisti and MG enthusiasts alike will have to wait and see what the future holds for the two famous marques but 2010 may well prove to be a pivotal year in the respective fortunes of both Alfa Romeo and MG…

Alfa Romeo Giulietta's (nee Milano) sales success is absolutely pivotal to the future prospects of its maker. Just like the MG6...
Alfa Romeo Giulietta: sales success will be absolutely pivotal to the marque's future prospects. Just like the MG6...

[Editor’s Notes:  (1) See the following articles: ‘Fiat architecture plans for Chrysler quickly taking shape’ 14th June, 2009, ‘Chrysler Group 2010 – 2014 Business Plan: Chrysler’ and ‘Chrysler Group 2010 – 2014 Business Plan: Dodge’ 5th November, 2009 for more information. (2) See the following article: ‘ITALY: Fiat inks car and engine JV with Guangzhou’ 6th July, 2009 for more information. (3) See the following article: ‘Guangzhou confirms platform talks with Fiat’ 1st October, 2008 for more information.]

Clive Goldthorp


  1. I like Italian cars – they have stylish designs, so they look good when you’re pushing them 😛 (Please note I currently own a Fiat and the jibe is an affectionate one!)
    It would be great shame to see another marque disappear, especially one as old as Alfa.

  2. I may be a supporter of British marques, but I think that a drawing a comparison between MG and Alfa Romeo is stretching the credibility of the brand too far.

    MG, to my mind (and I drive two MGs), is a troubled brand that has never really made much progress since the mid-Seventies. The MGB was dated by the mid-Seventies and loosing money on every car built, the MG saloons were quite clever in showing there was more to the MG name than just sports cars, but the traditional rose-tinted MG fraternity lambasted them – even examples like the MG Maestro which set a hot-hatch first by using a 2.0-litre engine when everyone else was stuck with either 1.6 or 1.8-litres – and the MG Metro Turbo was entertaining.

    The MGF showed some clever engineering, but was looking to appeal to all tastes rather than those with a love for driving – MG Rover Group’s efforts with the Trophy 160 SE edition and the updated TF showed what the car should have been from day one but the ZT260 showed no association with past MG saloon luminaries, just an obstinate excuse to put the MG name on a car that ideally should have been badged a Rover, for obvious reasons.

    The MG SV was a flawed and compromised £65,000+ supercar showed that the MG name did not have the magnetism to command appeal at such an elevated sector in the marketplace. The Alfa Romeo 8C, in comparison, is a much more appealing car that shows the Alfa Romeo name can command respect at over £100,000, even though their model range starts from around £14,000.

    Sorry, but MG has a troubled history with too many compromises. Moreover, it seems to be influenced more by the advice of two main MG Clubs that are predominantly full of rose-tinted enthusiasts who don’t really understand the harsh realities of the real automotive industry beyond the badge on the bonnet. I wish the new MG 6 well but it will take many years before MG will be in a postion to be regarded as Britain’s answer to Alfa Romeo – Alfa Romeo will, by then, have hopefully addressed their own shortcomings.

  3. This seams a rather bleak assessment of Alfa’s prospects as I understand that the MiTo is doing the business and selling well – you certainly see plenty of them on UK roads. The 147 replacement looks promising as well. I think it’s doing Alfa and Fiat a great disservice to compare them with MG!

  4. I echo Andrew’s comments above!

    I see what Marchionne might be getting at (I think) as the official news from Alfa always seems to take on a ‘dynamic new beginning’, ‘fresh start’ type of slant. I still feel that nowadays Alfa’s are more a marketing name than the true old Alfa’s that could be a pain but were very interesting, exciting cars at the same time.

    Still waiting for the return of Rover…!

  5. I love Brit cars. I love Jags, Landies, Triumphs, MGs, old Rover V8s etc. and have owned many over the years but, when it comes to the Alfas of old, it’s a whole new ball game.

    I have owned and loved a ‘Sud ti ,a 75 V6, a 155 2lt Twin Spark and a 145 TS and have loved them all for one reason and one reason only – PASSION. I have read and seen on TV many people try to explain why they love Alfas and I have tried hard to explain to people why I love them so much, so I will now give my latest version of why I love Alfas.

    1) The quirky styling – I want my car to be slightly different and not just a badge that the marketing men have told me is badge to have eg Audi, BMW etc. – it also helps you find it in a big supermarket car park full of badges!

    2) The Italian ape driving position – God love it – I’m 6’3” with short legs and long arms.

    3) The engine – I doesn’t matter if it’s a 1.5 lt or a 3.0lt V6, they all sound great.

    4) The steering and handling – The 145 had great steering on the go with a very quick rack but the turning circle of a oil tanker which made it a pain to park but it was a small price to pay and finding a easier parking spot usally meant a bit of a walk so good for the health.

    5) Reliable? Yes, all of them but never 99% – there was always a chance of it letting you down every now and then, much like myself.

    The Graduate, that red Alfa and Mrs Robinson – both scarlet ladies and both very naughty and, after all, you only live once!!!!!

  6. Since the demise of MGR, the Fiat Group has been the only remaining car maker that I care about. Whatever they do, I really hope they get it right.

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